It was some two months ago that TNA Wrestling crossed the half million mark in terms of “likes” on Facebook. Well, earlier today the promotion reached another milestone by surpassing 550,000 “likes” on the popular social networking website.
For comparison’s sake, let’s remember that WWE’s page on Facebook has generated over 4.97 million “likes” on the social networking site… so TNA Wrestling clearly has some catching up to do! But hey, the promotion can be glad that it is far and away from one of its supposed competitors – Ring of Honor Wrestling. The folks at ROH Wrestling have just over 45,000 Facebook “likes” to date.
I expect that when the company breaks through to more than one million Facebook fans there will probably be some type of public announcement so keep your eyes peeled during TNA Wrestling’s programming on Spike TV!
too bad facebook “likes” don’t translate into pay-per-view buys
You mean a national promotion is more popular than an indy promotion?! OH MY GOD I DIDN’T SEE THAT COMING!!!!
Nickelback will always be more popular than any indy rock band making music at the same time. Michael Bay’s crap will always be more popular than indy flicks. This says nothing about quality or relative success. While TNA is trying and failing to be a credible national company, ROH is trying and succeeding in being a credible indy company. And they’ve done it without handouts and financial backing.
Wade, I have to seriously question your financial credentials if you believe Ring of Honor has had no financial backing and has just operated under live gate and DVD sales. It’s not how business works.
The fact that you call Ring of Honor an Indy and TNA a national promotion kind of makes the point that Joe was making. Thanks for verifying.
Financial backing in the sense that they have a LOT of money backing them that they didn’t earn, and that they have the freedom to blow lots and lots of money on things(like celebs and big stars) while ROH does not have that kind of luxury.
Obviously ROH had the financial backing needed to start up and get itself going. But it is not backed by tons of cash. The company has gone on to become self-sustaining, unlike TNA which needed to be bailed out by Panda Energy and relies on it’s continued support to this day. TNA constantly blows tons of money on things that don’t end up actually helping the company in any way, but they can afford to do so while ROH has always had to be ran more responsibly and cautiously.
And then there’s the simple fact that ROH has always deliberately presented a niche product and catered to a niche part of the fanbase. They are not a company that is trying to be a big mainstream thing and failing. They are an indy company that’s been focusing on growing and developing as an indy company. And they’ve had great success in doing so. TNA has aspired to be a mainstream, national fed from the start. Of course TNA is going to be more well-known. The entire business model the two companies have guarentees that TNA will be more well-known.
It’s just so damn stupid to BRAG about being more popular than a company that has intentionally adopted an indy business model. It’s like a NASCAR driver bragging that he races faster than a track star. It’s two different companies doing two radically different things.
Wade, thank you again for proving Joe’s point.
I’m afraid you’ve been misinformed on a few things. TNA was bought by Panda Energy as it was facing possible bankruptcy, not bailed out. Panda is a for profit business. It is silly for you to think they are pumping money into a money losing business. Is it your contention the Carter’s love wrestling and are just blowing shareholder money? You realize there are laws against that?
You cite wastes of money and loss of money. Where have they lost money? Where have they wasted it?
In less than ten years TNA has captured viewership hovering at around half that of the WWE’s which has had a 30 plus year head start.
Has HDNET been deleted out of your reality? I know that claiming ROH just wants to be an Indy helps you cope with the fact that it just isn’t catching on. Facts are ROH is touring nationally, has had and is actively seeking national tv, and produces PPVs.
Basically don;t full yourself, they wanna be mainstream but they can’t cut the mustard.
Please come back and entertain us with more uncited tales of money loss and Indy pity. It’s entertaining.
I never climed ROH wasn’t trying to expand, but they are most definately focusing on an indy model and taking baby steps. The HDNet show was certainly an attempt to gain more exposure, but that doesn’t mean it was an attempt to suddenly become a major national fed. Everyone knew from the outset, and I’m sure Silken did as well, that HDNet would reach a limited, niche group of people. If they were really concerned with becoming a big deal in the mainstream they would have pushed harder for a network that reaches a large amount of people, like TNA did. ROH has always been about slow growth, about taking baby steps, anyone who takes a look at the history of the company can see that. They take very few risks and have been content with letting the company grow very slowly. You may think that this is a bad decision but it’s clearly the decision they’ve made, for good or ill.
If ROH was a failure, then they wouldn’t have constantly expanded their territory and their business for the past decade. They wouldn’t have gone from running a few places to having many reliable markets. They wouldn’t be putting on profitable ppvs right now. Are they mainstream? No. Are they as well-known as TNA or especially WWE? No. But there are plenty of reasons for that besides any percieved lack of quality. If you really think that quality is the biggest factor towards getting mainstream success in any part of the entertainment industry, I have some Backstreet Boys CDs to sell you. Hell, why do you think the WWE has remained so much above everyone else despite being mediocre for years? Name value. They have the history, they have the stars, they have the public’s mindshare. TNA isn’t ahead of ROH because it’s “better”, it’s ahead of ROH because it’s made a much bigger effort to attract that mindshare, and because they have the resources to do so.
Do you honestly think that if ROH had the financial backing to bring in so many well-known stars to the roster, and TNA didn’t, that things would be the same? I highly doubt that. TNA had the good fortune to have money and connections from the start. You’re blind if you think that TNA and ROH had an equally fair chance to grab people’s attention.
If TNA’s ass wasn’t saved by Panda Energy, who would go on to use it’s money and influence to get TNA it’s star power, it would have been dead a year in. ROH didn’t need their asses saved…but that also means they don’t have a financial backer that can get them those opportunities. If anything, its intial failure was the best thing to happen to TNA.
This is bsically fans of one promotion taking a dump on another company for not being able to do the same, but with less. It’s lacking in class. TNA and it’s fans should worry about improving their own company, not taking potshots at ones less fortunate.
By the way, you want an example of TNA wasting money? Jeff freakin’ Hardy. Nuff said.
Wow I don’t know what to say, either yuor ignorant to the way the business works or you are just playing the dumb RoH mark as a parody and doing a wonderful job.
I’ve covered every one of your points already and debunked them and you’ve come back regurgitating the same failed points with more words except one.
You cited signing Jeff Hardy as a waste of money. This is going to be fun. How much did he cost? What negative effect did this have on the bottom line? Is he being paid right now while he is inactive? What is the difference in total viewers pre-Hardy vs. post-Hardy. I await these answers as I’m sure that if it is indeed a waste you have them. Surely you wouldn’t make such a silly statement with out facts. Here’s guessing you did.
“What negative effect did this have on the bottom line?”
The bottom line apparently is TNA is pro-drugs, or else why would you make a man on trial for drug trafficking your world champion? is it to buddy up with the cartels for a strong push in Mexico?
“What is the difference in total viewers pre-Hardy vs. post-Hardy”
none, so what was the point of releasing people to free up money to bring him in?
This is hilarious. Who was released to “free up” money? I thought Panda was just pumping money in and losing money? Why would they need to free up money when they are just throwing money away? You gotta keep your story straight Bob.
its sad that it happens to people but come on wade dont be dome about it get of the coutch and watch TNA oright